Starfield-Lion/Toronto new DRD

[Hacienda216]

Just came across this little video on a new feet-first DRD designed by a Toronto FF in conjunction with Starfield-Lion. It can also be used to secure the SCBA in place without having to convert the waist strap to the between-the-legs strap. Feet-first removal is a little more awkward, but whatever works, right?

Video at the link below

http://www.starfieldlion.com/new_products.shtml

[PFD023]

Just came across this little video on a new feet-first DRD designed by a Toronto FF in conjunction with Starfield-Lion. It can also be used to secure the SCBA in place without having to convert the waist strap to the between-the-legs strap. Feet-first removal is a little more awkward, but whatever works, right?

Video at the link below

http://www.starfieldlion.com/new_products.shtml

My new gear has it....along with 2 others in the dept..
We had to do research as to what it exactly was....not in any of the supplied literature.
Our straps are missing velcro (compared to the video), it's time consuming, in an awkward location (backside of the ff near the cylinder valve), difficult to manage with gloves on makes it hard to believe this is anything other than say........."a gimmick"? You can do the very same thing with the scba belt conversion.....and you won't have to do another step when removing the ff headfirst/raising/lowering (velcro vs metal buckle - you choose which you'd rather have your life hanging by).
We tried it.....didn't like it.....may be useful though for pulling guys out from underneath of a truck if they've fallen asleep while doing their truck checks......other than that the scba belt conversion is OUR preferred method.

Christ I hope we didn't have to pay extra for it.....cause we didn't ask for it.

Come to think of it....this might be something that the MTO truck inspectors could use.....just build it into their coveralls....if they fall asleep under the truck while doing roadside truck checks along the QEW you could just yank them out.

[Roadwarrior]

I'm going to defer to PFD on this one.....he's used it.....but I just can't see any advantages to it.

[Hacienda216]

My new gear has it....along with 2 others in the dept..
We had to do research as to what it exactly was....not in any of the supplied literature.
Our straps are missing velcro (compared to the video), it's time consuming, in an awkward location (backside of the ff near the cylinder valve), difficult to manage with gloves on makes it hard to believe this is anything other than say........."a gimmick"? You can do the very same thing with the scba belt conversion.....and you won't have to do another step when removing the ff headfirst/raising/lowering (velcro vs metal buckle - you choose which you'd rather have your life hanging by).
We tried it.....didn't like it.....may be useful though for pulling guys out from underneath of a truck if they've fallen asleep while doing their truck checks......other than that the scba belt conversion is OUR preferred method...

Looked a little hokey, but I've seen far more useless gimmicks (can you say sonuvabitchuselessMSAdefendervisorstucktomystupidn ewhelmet?). I certainly wouldn't waste the time they did patting the crotch of my downed FF to secure those last 2 folds of velcro but I was thinking after, the amount of time you'd spend rolling the FF over to get to the strap on his back, is probably no faster than just digging in and getting that SCBA strap converted in the first place. Oh well, its the thought that counts....I guess.

Come to think of it....this might be something that the MTO truck inspectors could use.....just build it into their coveralls....if they fall asleep under the truck while doing roadside truck checks along the QEW you could just yank them out.

Especially at the Vineland scales! lol!

http://www.vineland.com/index/page/name/wine_club

"Collections Society Membership

As a Collections Society Member, you will receive two selected bottles of Premium or Reserve wine each month, shipped directly to your home or office..."

Its wine country Deevo, I mean, did they even stand a chance??

[Hacienda216]

I'm going to defer to PFD on this one.....he's used it.....but I just can't see any advantages to it.

I bet there's some good blooper real footage of the feet-first removals. Think amatuer skier meets 3 foot high pine trees on America`s Funniest Home Videos. Advantage +1.

[Rescue78]

I have seen this video a few times now, and I still fail to see the benefit of this strap.

Dragging feet first has it's pros and cons to start with. A huge benefit is that you are dragging the firefighter by the lower body as opposed to the heavier upper body. While you still end up moving the same weight, it is easier for some reason. But that is normally done by quickly tying a short loop around the feet. In the scenario shown in the video, the down firefighter's legs are allowed to catch on door frames and corners and furniture. The con's of a feet first drag include poor head protection and the bottle moving stem first, which increases the chances of it getting snagged.

In my opinion, their demo is far from proving faster then an SCBA conversion. A conversion is quick, efficient and requires no extra equipment.

[FLASHOVER05]

Has anyone tested this DRD with the package feet first down a flight of stairs?

What is wrong with the current DRD? My DRD on my jacket does not get in the way if deployed while wearing a pack...

[PFD023]

Has anyone tested this DRD with the package feet first down a flight of stairs?....
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valve of the cylinder slams into each stair...often gets jammed......and you aren't able to support the ff's head during the removal....chances are his mask will dislodge as well as his helmet.

[FLASHOVER05]

valve of the cylinder slams into each stair...often gets jammed......and you aren't able to support the ff's head during the removal....chances are his mask will dislodge as well as his helmet.

That wasn't suppose to make sense... it was a joke

[PFD023]

That wasn't suppose to make sense... it was a joke

the question has been asked before in other forums...."how do you extricate a downed ff in a narrow hallway/staircase if the ff's head is away from the stairs and feet are at the stairs"....meaning.....not enough room to remove them the "traditional way"......sorry I missed the humour......I tend to miss alot of things these days.

[itsnotahobby]

Yeah I think this strap is useless too.

On another note I'm noticing some of the newer brothers on here using the IAFF logo or Avatar, come to think of it even the vets on here all do. Think its time for some of you to embrace the OPFFA!!!!!!!!

[PFD023]

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On another note I'm noticing some of the newer brothers on here using the IAFF logo or Avatar, come to think of it even the vets on here all do. Think its time for some of you to embrace the OPFFA!!!!!!!!


Obviously you haven't seen my new tatt!! :>

[itsnotahobby]

Is it Fred Leblanc giving two thumbs up on your back in the same style as Steve O???

[irsqyu]

Yeah I think this strap is useless too.

On another note I'm noticing some of the newer brothers on here using the IAFF logo or Avatar, come to think of it even the vets on here all do. Think its time for some of you to embrace the OPFFA!!!!!!!!

Do they have an Alumni Creast?

[itsnotahobby]

Do they have an Alumni Creast?

Actually yeah, we've got the standard OPFFA window sticker with RETIRED under it. Maybe I'll have to scan it for you!

[irsqyu]

Actually yeah, we've got the standard OPFFA window sticker with RETIRED under it. Maybe I'll have to scan it for you!


Maybe I'll go down to the OPFFA office and get one, where is it? Oh Ya I remember;)