goggles

[Lonny]

Looking at getting goggles with the helmet attachments. Any suggestions on what to look for and places to purchase?

[FLASHOVER05]

Look into the ESS goggles... the model you may want to consider is the FirePro-EX, it features the helmet clips so they essentially pull down from your helmet.

They're nice, I know a few guys that use them, I've been considering a pair myself. Check online, some of the US Suppliers offer a better cost than purchasing from a dealer here in Canada (No offense you you sellers out there)

I've seen them for as low as $40usd

check them out here

http://www.mesfire.com/Portal.aspx?CN=E87960FB3898

[Lonny]

Thanks for the information. Better price than I had imagined.

[FLASHOVER05]

Thanks for the information. Better price than I had imagined.

You probably won't find pricing like this on this side of the boarder... shop wisely

[PFD023]

On a related note....I believe this is still in the works....keep your fingers crossed that the death of the faceshield is quickly approaching.

http://www.firerescue1.com/fire-products/Fire-Goggles/articles/746966-Firefighter-Face-Protection-Goggles-vs-Faceshields/

[Lonny]

Very interesting. I agree with you that face shields are not sufficient for full protection. Unfortunately, in my part of the world, goggles are frowned upon because traditional beliefs hold strong. My focus is on safety and the logical alternative. Therefore goggles it is!

[Lonny]

Just thought that I would let you know that the link for the ESS Goggles that you provided does not ship to Canada. Several American companies do however including ESS Corporate. Thanks for the information. From what I have read, the ESS X-Tricator come highly rated and I have ordered a pair.

[FLASHOVER05]

Just thought that I would let you know that the link for the ESS Goggles that you provided does not ship to Canada. Several American companies do however including ESS Corporate. Thanks for the information. From what I have read, the ESS X-Tricator come highly rated and I have ordered a pair.

Once you get to use them a few times let us know how you like them.... I'm interested in hearing how you make out. I didn't know MES doesn't sell into Canada, sorry about that, but as you said, they'll be a few that will

Once again, good purchase, enjoy!

[Hacienda216]

Once you get to use them a few times let us know how you like them.... I'm interested in hearing how you make out...

Likewise, we were just chewing over the idea of making the switch to goggles ourselves. Let us know how you like them.

[red_dog_six]

Cool!

Thought about the change......yes let us know how they work out!

[FFEMT51]

Make sure you take these goggles off of your helmet when in structural fire conditons(interior attack). I don't believe they have the same heat rating as the structural goggles do...A pair of melted goggles is a real possiblity.

[irsmith]

Morning Pride helmets, with their built in goggle retention system and a goggle garage keep you goggles secure, safe and ready for deployment. Available at Morrisonfire.com

[Lonny]

My goggles were delivered about three weeks ago. Although I have only had the chance to use them a few times, I can really see many advantages. With the shield removed from my helmet, it is less bulky and I feel that it is lighter. Vision clarity has also improved significantly as I am no longer trying to see through a scratched face shield. My eyes are protected from dirt and other particles that always seemed to get through the shield. The only downfall is that with the helmet mounts, the goggles do not fit as snug as with the head band. This may be a personal comfort thing. I would recommend that anyone interested in purchasing a set of goggles pay a little extra for the cover or goggle garage as I just learned they are called. This will take your mind off scratching them when manoeuvring through confined spaces while on the helmet. Overall I am a very satisfied customer and understand the advantages of goggles over the shield (both in practical and safety terms). Not to mention that the goggles just look cooler!

[FFEMT51]

You can also buy tear off lens covers. basically you slap them on your clean goggles and if they get dirty, you can just tear a layer off. They also protect the lens to some degree. They Come in a 6 pack. I can't find on the website if they are recommended for firefighting goggles or if they will just melt and ruin the lenses.

[Hacienda216]

You can also buy tear off lens covers. basically you slap them on your clean goggles and if they get dirty, you can just tear a layer off. They also protect the lens to some degree. They Come in a 6 pack. I can't find on the website if they are recommended for firefighting goggles or if they will just melt and ruin the lenses.

Mine came with Mirror Red Polarized lens, clear lens, and 24 tear-offs. Sweeeet deal.

http://smithoptics.ca/products/#/Goggles/Bike+Goggles/Fuel+v.2+Sweat-X/view/

For those X-TREME firefighters encountering rapidly changing, action-packed conditions, consider stepping up to...

http://smithoptics.ca/products/#/Accessories/Goggle+Accessories/Roll+Offs/view/

[Lonny]

You can also buy tear off lens covers. basically you slap them on your clean goggles and if they get dirty, you can just tear a layer off. They also protect the lens to some degree. They Come in a 6 pack. I can't find on the website if they are recommended for firefighting goggles or if they will just melt and ruin the lenses.

Were can I find the protective Helmet cover or goggle garage?
Thanks

[FFEMT51]

if you have any dealers in your area, see if they can get you the goggles or garage.

try ebay.com, usually you can fire new/unused firefighting gear on there.

or, search online for the product...try thefirestore.com has the goggles, goggle garage and alot of accessories

[Roadwarrior]

For almost any product, go to the manufacurer's web site. Usually they will have a listing of their dealers. Otherwise, fire them off an e-mail asking for a dealer in your area. The advantage to buying from a local sales rep is that a: they can usually bring a sample of the product around to show you and b: if you have any repair/warranty issues, they can be easily dealt with.

[Lonny]

Just wanted to add another observation that I have had with the goggles. Be ready to take a little heat from fellow firefighters and those in neighboring departments. It is amazing how many firefighters refuse to acknowledge the safety benefits of primary eye protection as opposed to the shield. The rural departments in my part of the country hold on tight to tradition. I have to laugh to myself when they argue that the goggles do not fit over the SCBS face piece!
Are there any other firefighters who have experienced the same thing?

[ghfd04]

[QUOTE=Lonny;171583] It is amazing how many firefighters refuse to acknowledge the safety benefits of primary eye protection as opposed to the shield. QUOTE]

I think one problem is that many FFs are not aware of is that a helmet visor is NOT primary eye protection...that is - you still need to be wearing ANSI Z87.1 approved glasses underneath the visor to be protected.

[FFEMT51]

Neighboring depts gave us a hard time about our googles.

Then you try to explain to them that NFPA 1971 lists "primary" eye protection as goggles, glasses and scba facepiece...and that a faceshield is secondary eye protection. Many guys believe that once that faceshield is down, they are full protected, when in reality alot of debris can still get underneath it

[Lonny]

[QUOTE=Lonny;171583] It is amazing how many firefighters refuse to acknowledge the safety benefits of primary eye protection as opposed to the shield. QUOTE]

I think one problem is that many FFs are not aware of is that a helmet visor is NOT primary eye protection...that is - you still need to be wearing ANSI Z87.1 approved glasses underneath the visor to be protected.

I agree. You'd think departments would be encouraged to switch just for insurance purposes. From what I gather, insurance companies do not pay up unless the injured firefighter in question was wearing the required equipment at the time of injury. I would assume that faceshields would not be sufficient?