Markham - CPAT

[Sneddy]

Goodluck to all doing the CPAT in Markham. Let us know how it goes!


Sneddy

[DoubleHelix]

I'm doing it tomorrow morning. I went to visit one of the halls today after work and wow what a great bunch of guys. Talked with them for a good half an hour and showed me around and stuff. Seems like a really good department to get hired but from the sounds of it they are not really that busy :(

[hrecruit]

good luck with that tomorrow man lets know how you do.

[DoubleHelix]

Thanks, I rolled my ankle last friday playing basketball and practically my whole foot was purple for most of the week so its better now but hopefully it doesnt act up.

[hrecruit]

ever do it before

[DoubleHelix]

I did the orientation session for Markham. I've done York 3 times and passed by along shot but felt like crap each time as usual. I think i'll be fine its just theres alot of stupid things you can screw up on.

[hrecruit]

you said man I have to do it again before I get hired and my nerves are shot from it but I did well in the first one but I know what you mean a lot of stupid things can happen but I don't think these guys are out to get anyone. good luck bro you'll do great.

[FFWannabe]

June 3rd for me brother... can't wait! I was getting really nervous wondering why I seemed to be having a hard time with my stair workouts... then I realized, I am doing them for 5.5 minutes instead of the 3.5 I used to do...and I found my missing 10 lb plate... hahaha... it was in the bag, so I've been doing 85 lbs instead of 75!!! Phew! I'm not in the same shape I was the last time (I'm carrying my own extra ten pounds as well), but I'm still strong, so I'm casually optimistic (but I'll keep my fingers crossed anyway)!

I hope all goes well DH, just listen to the proctor and whip through it... don't worry about what can go wrong... just do what I do... I pretend it's life or death each time... hahaha... no pressure there! lol!

Best of luck to all!
Sue :)

[hrecruit]

good luck guys you don't need it but good luck anyway

cheers

[DoubleHelix]

Just got back from the test. That is a breeze compared to York. Once I got to the body drag my legs were definetly feeling it but it was more fun then anything. I got picked to go first which a year ago would have been death to me but it was awesome. The platoon chief was watching the whole time which gave me some added motivation. I have a interview next Thursday. The lady said it would take an hour and a half. They had water and gatorade for the participants which I think is a nice gesture considering at York you barely get a hello. All the captains and firefighters helping out were great and sincerely want you to do good.


A great experience!!

[hrecruit]

great job man have much time left.

[dentedhead]

Nice job DH from DH.Good luck on your interview,if you get it thats nice and close to home for you.

Dentedhead

[DoubleHelix]

Thanks guys, im pretty pumped. I went and visited my station in Toronto today and spent like an hour and a half there. They asked me the question where would I rather work? Not like im probaly gonna get tons of offers but my answer, whoever hires me first. I don't have a preference at all, each department has their own advantages and disadvantages but to all the people doing the markham recruitment why would you want to work in Markham over a big city?

[scoop422]

Congrats Helix. Markham is a growing city and will probably have more room for advancement and good departmental opportunities. Go get em' in the interview!

[YammieR6_24]

Just got back from my Markam CPAT, I did OK and passed. I have an interview on June 13, so now I have to start getting ready for that! For anyone yet to do their CPAT they say to plan for 1.5 - 2 hours for the first interview. Half an hour for the interview and the rest to write the PreView psych test (hope I'm not crazy!)

[scoop422]

If you're on this forum you have to be crazy! Good luck!

[dentedhead]

Just got back from my Markam CPAT, I did OK and passed. I have an interview on June 13, so now I have to start getting ready for that! For anyone yet to do their CPAT they say to plan for 1.5 - 2 hours for the first interview. Half an hour for the interview and the rest to write the PreView psych test (hope I'm not crazy!)

Glad I dont have to write it I might busticate the machine!

Dentedhead

[PeTeRpArKeR]

I also found the test to be somewhat easier than York. But 2 ahead of me did not pass , so my anxiety level went through the roof. My initial interview is a week Monday. Anybody have any ideas on what to expect?? This is a first for me. Also, anyone know know many made it to the first interview stage? And finally GOOD LUCK to everyone !!!!!!!!

[hrecruit]

I also found the test to be somewhat easier than York. But 2 ahead of me did not pass , so my anxiety level went through the roof. My initial interview is a week Monday. Anybody have any ideas on what to expect?? This is a first for me. Also, anyone know know many made it to the first interview stage? And finally GOOD LUCK to everyone !!!!!!!!


how did those guys fail ?

[PeTeRpArKeR]

P.S. Let us know how you made out today Sue. I'm betting you will ace it !

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Not really sure... But it sure made me nervous..

[DoubleHelix]

I was the first to go so im glad I didn't see anyone fail. If you fail based on time, you better actually start working out because the alloted time is pretty fair. But if you failed based on some faults then its understandable with nerves and everything but still. Good luck everyone!!

[Pumper99]

I've got a meeting with Dr. Gledhill Tuesday morning.......not looking forward to my 3rd York Test.

Pumper99

[rescue65]

What is the toughest event?? To me, the stair climb looks pretty rough....but that is based on my experiences with York.

[DoubleHelix]

Toughest event I feel was the body drag. It's one of the last ones and my legs were really really feeling it by that point. Originally I thought it would be the forcible entry because at the orientation it took my like 7 hits to finish that event. But when I did the test I just focused on using my body and hitting the target dead in the middle and I smoked it in 4 hits.


Pumper why are you doing York again?

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Sue.. How did you make out yesterday ?????

[LtBlondie]

Sue PASSED and has an interview on the 16th!!!! She came to see tha face behind the LtBlondie name lol!! She was headin downtown to get shi** faced and she met the boys and stayed for about 30 mins, so, when she's back intown there will be yet another night to get sloppy!
She'll post soon I'm sure, once she can get her head back on her shoulders! Ha Glad I had to work!!
No headache for moi!!
Who else has interviews and when??

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Way to go Sue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As if there were ever a doubt .... My interview is the 13th.. First kick at the cat for me and though I know I am young and have a ways to go.. I am still happy to have made it this far. I hope I can always check in with you more experienced guys (and girls) to get pointers and advice. Best of Luck to everyone..

[dentedhead]

Way to go Sue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As if there were ever a doubt .... My interview is the 13th.. First kick at the cat for me and though I know I am young and have a ways to go.. I am still happy to have made it this far. I hope I can always check in with you more experienced guys (and girls) to get pointers and advice. Best of Luck to everyone..

Hey spidey thats what we are all here for.To teach,to learn,help each other out and have some fun.Just like in a real hall.

Good luck to you as well young fella.

Dentedhead

[DoubleHelix]

I have mine this Thursday. Congrats who all that passed and good luck at the interview stage.

Lt. Blondie did you get called to Wonderland on Saturday? We had a Vaughan Fire aerial show up from a 911 call that there was a fire. Ended up being nothing but cool seeing the truck there. It sure beats our little squad.

[Pumper99]

Helix........doing the York for two reasons. To stay current and for school. I'm going to destroy it......feeling pretty good and have trained hard for it.

Pumper99

[FFWannabe]

Helix........doing the York for two reasons. To stay current and for school. I'm going to destroy it......feeling pretty good and have trained hard for it.

Pumper99

Good luck bud, as you know, it's all about the breathing with the V02... settle in and run! :) Good not to keep your eggs all in one basket!

Sue :)

[PeTeRpArKeR]

I have no idea what to expect at the interview and will likely be a wreck that day. And the prevue test?? Guess the best thing is to not over analyse and go with your first answer. I'll look forward to hearing how everyone does.
Spidey Out..

[Pumper99]

Thanks sue. I'll let you know how I did tomorrow afternoon.

Pumper99

[Sneddy]

Well... I passed the CPAT yesterday, off to the interview stage. Good luck to all!


Ed

[FFWannabe]

Well... I passed the CPAT yesterday, off to the interview stage. Good luck to all!


Ed

Good Job Ed!!! Best of luck at the interview!

Sue :)

[Mike13]

Passed it today. Compared to York, this is easy. Just stay calm and breathe. You'll get through it no problem.

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Hey congrats to everyone. Good luck with the interview! Sue way to go I know you'll do great and thanks for all the support. DH.. just curious.. how did you manage forcible entry in 4 hits??

[rescue65]

Hey all,
I have also passed the cpat and have an interview. I had recieved an email today from recruit fire magazine regarding the interview stage. They said about 500 to 600 are invited to the interview!! Anyone else think that is a bit high?
I was under the impression that only 500 - 600 were invited to the CPAT. Based on the pass rate according to one of the testers I talked to today, it is about 70% for men and 30% for women.
Im thinking maybe its around 300 for the interview. Of the 8 people in my group today I know of 2 who failed. I didnt see fail numbers like that at York
I'm guessing that the psych test is really going to narrow the field down

Any othe thoughts on this?????

[PeTeRpArKeR]

I had the same thoughts myself... But having been new to the process.... who knows... 500-600 seems an awful lot for interviews..... Anyone else with far more experience than me want to weigh in ??

[Sneddy]

Hello everyone,

I did the CPAT on Monday. My proctor said that 506 registered for the CPAT, so its 506 or less some may not show. I don't know the pass rate but people did fail, some who probably should have passed... but bad things can happen to good people. As for the pre-vue it is more for a personallity test than a psych test. You know some people are meant to sit behind a desk, that is the perpose of this test to find things like that out. It is not unlike a myers-briggs style test, or perhaps a true colors type test. There is not a right or wrong answer, but be careful they can see inconsistanies in your answers so be honest. Of course dishonesty is not a disirable characteristic for a fire fighter.

Just some thoughts,
Take it easy all, and good luck.

Ed

[scoop422]

How does anyone fail? Even if it is really hard. Come on this is a firefighter's job you'd think they'd be ready!

[DoubleHelix]

Hey congrats to everyone. Good luck with the interview! Sue way to go I know you'll do great and thanks for all the support. DH.. just curious.. how did you manage forcible entry in 4 hits??


I don't know what to say man. I'm not a crazy juice freak but I had good technique that I had been practicing.

[FFWannabe]

I think that failure rate seems awfully high. The last time I did the CPAT in Ottawa, there were two other women in my group and even though one of them suffered, we all passed... although, 2 men in my group on Friday were not successful. It sounds like 2 here, 2 there... so it would make sense that the pass rate would have to be closer to 80% over all, unless you have whol groups failing!

Oh, and Spidey... I did it in three the last test... lol... but it took me 7 this time...I was swinging it pretty slow this time around which pissed me off, so the last couple of swings sent it flying... lol!

Sue :)

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Guess I'm going to have to practise. Took me 6 swings..
Hope everyone has a great day.
Spidey out.

[YammieR6_24]

I think the number to do the CPAT was around 560. The way it was explained to me at the orientation was the CPAT has a 70% pass rate for average men. So if they just randomly pull from the population 70% of guys pass but that number goes up when you test a bunch of wantabees like us. Almost all of us train for the physicals and are in better then average shape so the pass rate goes up to 80-90% and that is what Markham was expecting. I would guess about 500 interview and yes that is a huge number even for first interviews.

[DoubleHelix]

Had my interview today, went really really well. Very laid back and quick.

The prevue test is really really hard. Know your alphabet front and back.

[rescue65]

hey DH how fast was the interview? and how did you go about proving your eye sight?? When will they let candidates know about the interview results? Any more hiring info??

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Congrats DH !!! My interview is Monday and I am pretty much terrified. But I have to keep reminding myself. This is what it is about and I better get used to it. As for the prevue.. well since I am new at this I have no idea what to expect... Maybe that is for the best..
YIKES !!!! LOL

[FFWannabe]

Good job DH Jr (hee hee.. have to differentiate you two)! Is the PreVue anything like the OSFF test?

Rescue05, you need to make an appointment with an optometrist and get a print out/letter of your results. They let you know after the CPAT, but I have to admit, I only heard part of what she said so I called to verify! lol! Get going on it soon, it's sometimes tough to get an appointment and you have to pay for it, OHIP doesn't cover adults anymore (but it's usually covered through insurance).

Sue :)

[DoubleHelix]

I just used my York University Fitness test results. It says at the bottom about your vision and if you passed or not.

The prevue has a section like the OS but its way harder. You can't really prepare for it and it just sort of gauges how well you can think quickly. And do I ever mean quickly. The first 2 sections I didn't finish because my time ran up and trust me I wasn't going slow either.

Also the interview was fairly quick and informal. They don't care about your qualifications at all.

We're supposed to hear back in early July if we are moving on.

Good Luck!!

[smoke286]

How does anyone fail? Even if it is really hard. Come on this is a firefighter's job you'd think they'd be ready!

Lots fail scoop, because they think tehy're a lot better then they actually are

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Thanks for the heads up on the prevue DH. Guess I'll just do like everyone else and go by the seat of my pants.
Rather than rely on my York, I got my eyes tested yesterday. $75.00.. No one said this career choice would be cheap eh ??

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Well.. my first interview and prevue test. I beleive I BOMBED big time. I am trying to console myself by thinking of it as a learning experience. Good Luck to everyone still interviewing and moving on.
Spidey out.

[FFWannabe]

Well.. my first interview and prevue test. I beleive I BOMBED big time. I am trying to console myself by thinking of it as a learning experience. Good Luck to everyone still interviewing and moving on.
Spidey out.

Why do you think you bombed? Was it the test that you felt uncomfortable with? I hope things went well, you may be surprised.

Sue :)

PS - I just noticed you live in Courtice... how long did it take you to get to Markham from there?

[DoubleHelix]

Everyone ive talked to felt really uncomfortable with the test. And some of the guys ive talked to are not pylons either. There's going to be alot to think about for the interviewers. How are they going to weigh everything? CPAT times, interview, test. Thats alot to weigh.

[FFWannabe]

from what they have said all throughout the process, the CPS and CPAT will be pass/fail and not weighted and the PreVue and interview will be what they judge you on. Who knows... I just hope they pick me!!! hee hee...and all of you of course! ;)

Sue :)

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Time will tell but I'm pretty certain I tanked...I have been trying not to be discouraged but it's tough....
Let us know your thoughts Sue once you are done, since you have been through similar processes before and have a better idea..
Thanks for the feedback DH.

[DoubleHelix]

How many of you got your eye exam done?

I just used my York University certificate and they said okay and checked off some boxes. But now im thinking what if that wasnt good enough and they checked it off as not being done. I'm actually kind of worried. I'm gonna call them tomorrow.

[rescue65]

Hey DH,
I havent had my interview yet, but Ive booked a date for an eye exam. I dont really want to use a york because its not the most reliable test you can get. So to avoid confusion I'll just pay the 85 bucks

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Hey DH... I'm thinking if they said it was ok to use the York.. then they can't fault you.

[FFWannabe]

I paid for the eye exam as well, but I really didn't have much other choice. I do have results from Police testing, but I didn't know if they would accept that! And what's with $85 or less, it cost me $92! Guess I should have called around! lol

Sue :)

[Sneddy]

Wow guys, I called Markham and talked to Nadine Daily. She told me that I could use a note from my doctor for the vaccinations and eye tests. Note must be on letter head on Rx paper. Your doctor or walk-in clinic will provide that service for 10 bucks (normally), if you can prove it.

I go next Thursday and I am already feelin' it.

Also this test as I understand it is used for many professions not just fire. Perhaps most good fire fighters are not good at word jumbbles and the like. Try researching the test on-line and see what you think. Pre-vue testing originally started in the UK and is noe widely used for most jobs. You know to check suitability.


Sneddy out, lol

[DoubleHelix]

Do you have Nadine's number so I can contact her?

[scoop422]

Results from police testing? Are you applying there too? Please tell me fire is #1!

[FFWannabe]

Results from police testing? Are you applying there too? Please tell me fire is #1!

hahahha..... Uhhh, yes!!! The test results were from a couple of years ago and they're valid for three years. I did re-certify my PREP(police Physical) so I can apply anywhere in Ontario with it now, but the results are still sitting in the envelope on my stairs! I always need a back up plan, whether I use it or not, it makes me feel better to know it's there!

Sue :)

[Sneddy]

Hey DH,

I just called HR, when they can not answer a question they put you through to Nadine. If you call HR, ask to be put through to Nadine. The HR number is on all the letters you got from Markham.

Good Luck

Ed

[FFWannabe]

Well I'm home and I would just like to say.... Uggggg!!

Three questions I can definitely answer about myself;

1 - Does my brain like letters? No

2 - Does my brain like numbers, etc? Yes

3 - Do I turn into a freaking lunatic when faced with the pressure of an interview? Apparently now I do!!! I wish I had been able to illustrate a clear and proper image of myself and not the lackluster performance I gave today. I would hate think that they now think I crumble under pressure. Heck, I even don't mind public speaking anymore, but when it's something very important to me I sometimes get a little nervous... what can I say?

I feel like I bombed, so don't feel bad PeterParker... but sometimes that's not always a bad thing! We'll find out in a few weeks either way!!! :)

Sue :)

PS - One other thing I can answer about myself... Do I feel like having a beer or ten right now... YESSS!!! hee hee!!!

[DoubleHelix]

I'm sure you guys did better than you think. This was my third interview and out of the three it was definetly the toughest. All the other regular questions you already have a good idea of what you want to say but not with those questions.

I'm anxiously awaiting a reply from them to see if I got a second.

[FFWannabe]

I'm sure you guys did better than you think. This was my third interview and out of the three it was definetly the toughest. All the other regular questions you already have a good idea of what you want to say but not with those questions.

I'm anxiously awaiting a reply from them to see if I got a second.

yes, I think that's the key, I felt unprepared and I like to be prepared, I'm a regular Boy Scout (except not...)!!! lol! I have done an interview like this for the police department and found it went much better (although that was 4 hours, we got waaay off topic a couple of times)...but I was able to prepare for each question (not the exact question, but we were given general topics they would be covering). Eeeeks... I should have known better and prepared for multiple types of questions... my bad! lol We should know by the first week or so of July either way... ooooh, can't wait! heee heee!! :)

Sue :eek:

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Don't feel bad folks. To add injury to my very uncomfortable interview and that brutal test... I was so rattled when I left, I put my certifications on top of the car and drove away. I had to get out in the middle of the road and retrieve them right in front of the building. I am trying hard to laugh at myself. By the way, I turn 21 in August.. Will I still be the junior member?? LOL

[FFWannabe]

Oh Peter, you poor guy! You will be able to laugh at it soon. I am still wanting to bash my head hard against my desk for one of my answers in the interview. I have such a better one for that instance. And when they asked if I had any questions, I wanted to ask if I could start over, but I'm guessing that wouldn't have be possible!!! hahaha!!!

Ah well, if you weren't at least a little uncomfortable then it just didn't mean enough to you, it's just a physiological response to remind you that you want to impress and do well.... ah well, no need worrying, we'll know soon enough, then we can move on to the next stage in this process or the next step to becoming a fire fighter elsewhere!

It's all good, either way, a great experience!!

Sue :)

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Thanks for the chuckle Sue.. It's nice to know everyone supports each other .. Helps ease the sting..

[rescue65]

I havent had my interview yet, but I have heard it is a very unusual interview...most people really dont know how to prepare for it! Is it that bad???

[FFWannabe]

Hey rescue... we are asked not to talk about the interview itself, and it's not really that unusual, it's just unexpected. Just relax and you'll do fine. I can tell you the mistake I made was not taking a moment to think about my answers!

Good luck! Sue :)

[DoubleHelix]

The whole interview is about you as a person. Sounds kind of stupid because obviously all interviews are about you but this one is strictly examples of what youve done in your life.

A great chance to see what a person is like.

[rescue65]

Hey I just checked Markhams website one more time to ensure I have everything and I noticed this for the INITIAL INTERVIEW! Anyone else see this?? Did they ask for the criminal record check or abstract??

"At the time of your interview, you are to bring with you:

Original (or certified) copies of your qualifications (i.e., diplomas, current certificates, immunization card)


A police security clearance (original) and driver abstract. (Shall be dated within the past calendar year)

NOTE: You are responsible for any costs associated with obtaining these items.


If your interview is successful, you will be invited to proceed to the next levels."




If your interview is unsuccessful, you will be provided appropriate feedback.


If a decision is reached to implement a deferral period (file hold), it will be effective from the date of your interview.

http://www.markham.ca/markham/channels/fireserv/sp_phase5.htm#PartII

[Sneddy]

Hey,


Hey rescue65, I have the police check and the abstract, and ya I will be bringing it with me on Thursday. However, it does not say to bring that on the interview info sheet we were given. So... hard to say. Good Luck.


Ed

[DoubleHelix]

They don't ask for it at your interview. And it didn't say it on the letter of acceptance to the next stage.

It would be a waste of money if they made 400 some odd people get that done if 75% won't get looked at again.

[FFWannabe]

You don't need either, DH is right. Also the info on the website regarding the interview is a little misleading I think, I panicked for a moment as well. Just show up with what they ask for on the sheet and you'll be fine. I had my abstract with me (curiosity while updating my driver's license address a little while ago made me have one printed at the kiosk... lol) and they didn't want to see it.

Best of luck guys... again, relax and you'll do fine!!

Sue :)

PS - DH, be wary what you say about the interview and the test, you can be disqualified for talking about specifics. :eek:

[DoubleHelix]

Thanks for the tip but I dont think ive really said anything to specific. If I was saying all the questions I could see but giving specifics on minimums I dont think would hurt.

[FFWannabe]

Thanks for the tip but I dont think ive really said anything to specific. If I was saying all the questions I could see but giving specifics on minimums I dont think would hurt.

I didn't mean to be rude or anything, but a couple of things you've said about the interview question types and test question types could be deamed as inappropriate in their eyes... that's all. I've seen it with other processes where an individual was dismissed for talking about the type of interview... just wanted to give a heads up, that's all! :) Who knows, better safe than sorry!

Sue :)

[DoubleHelix]

Yeah true, thanks for the heads up, its appreciated. :)

[FFWannabe]

Yeah true, thanks for the heads up, its appreciated. :)


Hey, I tried to post just a smilie and it said my message was too short... I have never been told I talk/type too little! lol!

:)

Sue :)

[DoubleHelix]

By they way just talked to my buddy who interviewed last week and he got a letter today saying he is no longer is the running. Good luck everyone!!

[FFWannabe]

By they way just talked to my buddy who interviewed last week and he got a letter today saying he is no longer is the running. Good luck everyone!!

Eeeks, really... they aren't even finished interviewing yet... I'll keep my fingers crossed!

Best of luck to all! Sue :)

[PeTeRpArKeR]

OMG !!! This is just way too much pressure for a youngster like me.. LOL...

[Sneddy]

Wow, what can you make of that?

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Well.. I got my letter today. They thanked me for my interest blah blah.. I will not be moving on. As much and all as I was prepared.. it still stings... Best of luck to all those still in the running !!!!!!
Spidey out

[FFWannabe]

Well.. I got my letter today. They thanked me for my interest blah blah.. I will not be moving on. As much and all as I was prepared.. it still stings... Best of luck to all those still in the running !!!!!!
Spidey out

Sorry to hear that buddy! I was hoping for ya'! You've gained some great experience now though... keep going...

Sue :)

[dentedhead]

Well.. I got my letter today. They thanked me for my interest blah blah.. I will not be moving on. As much and all as I was prepared.. it still stings... Best of luck to all those still in the running !!!!!!
Spidey out

Sorry to hear spidey,at least you have youth on your side.Consider it a learning experience and grow from it.Just remember that rejection isnt fatal and there will be other recruitments.Many have kicked that cat 5-6 times and are finally successful.

Dentedhead

[DoubleHelix]

Just checked my mail and there was nothing. I'm not gonna read into it but hopefully thats a good sign.

[FFWannabe]

Ummmmm....I just picked up my mail!!! I've booked my second interview for July 8th at 2pm!!!!!

HOLY MOTHER OF LAND I'M GOING FOR A SECOND INTERVIEW!!!!!

OKay, back to work to book the day off! Holy shit!!!

Sue :)

[DoubleHelix]

Thats awesome, congrats you're that much closer.

[Ladymedic]

Congratulations Sue!!!!! :)

See, you must not have done so bad after all.

[LtBlondie]

Breathe girl Breathe!!!

[dentedhead]

Way to go!Does that mean another boozer in TO?

Dentedhead

[LtBlondie]

That would be a BIG yes the 9th I beleive, were setting it up as we speak...details to follow..come one come all..

[scoop422]

WHOO-HOO! Awesome girl way to go!

[dentedhead]

That would be a BIG yes the 9th I beleive, were setting it up as we speak...details to follow..come one come all..

Again I will have to remain a mystery man.I will be in the TO area that day.... at a family members wedding!Drat foiled againLOL

Dentedhead

[Ladymedic]

Hmmmmm, are you all starting to wonder if the elusive DH really does exist? Or is he actually some 3ft small person firefighter wannabe who lurks these forms giving advice? When will we ever know for sure...........

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Way To Go Sue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CONGRATS !!!!

[dentedhead]

Hmmmmm, are you all starting to wonder if the elusive DH really does exist? Or is he actually some 3ft small person firefighter wannabe who lurks these forms giving advice? When will we ever know for sure...........


Yeah you got me. Im 17 years old and my fave place is right here in my moms basement.I am studying for my final english exam right now man shakespeare is dry.This summer I will be working at the burger king fulltime as the pickle/ketchup guy.I am not a FF wannabe I have my sights set on being a crew leader when I get my grade 12 (or maybe Ill take a year off to find myself and do my GED).I want to specialize in fries(fingerscrossed).I will have you Know that I am 49" tall,missed the little peoples guild by 1 " dammit!

Dentedhead
P.S I really think star wars rocks its leiariffic!
P.S.S Any advice I have given has been stolen from Ricki Lake and Montel Williams.I dont understand Dr.Phil hes too smart and uses big words.

[Ladymedic]

Yeah you got me. Im 17 years old and my fave place is right here in my moms basement.I am studying for my final english exam right now man shakespeare is dry.This summer I will be working at the burger king fulltime as the pickle/ketchup guy.I am not a FF wannabe I have my sights set on being a crew leader when I get my grade 12 (or maybe Ill take a year off to find myself and do my GED).I want to specialize in fries(fingerscrossed).I will have you Know that I am 49" tall,missed the little peoples guild by 1 " dammit!

Dentedhead
P.S I really think star wars rocks its leiariffic!
P.S.S Any advice I have given has been stolen from Ricki Lake and Montel Williams.I dont understand Dr.Phil hes too smart and uses big words.



I think I'm in love!!!!!!!!! ;) Can you sing "Ding fries are done" for me??


http://www.americanangst.com/dingfries.html

[FFWannabe]

Thanks guys! A couple more hurdles, so let's hope I don't knick my toe on one!! Oh boy! Yes, August 9th, sounds like a great night to have a few bevvies!! DH... you suck!! ;)

Sue :)

[dentedhead]

Thanks guys! A couple more hurdles, so let's hope I don't knick my toe on one!! Oh boy! Yes, August 9th, sounds like a great night to have a few bevvies!! DH... you suck!! ;)

Sue :)

Hang on lets back the bus up,I may sound like a trailer park mom to be. I appear to have my dates mixed up I thought your interview was for July 8,party on the 9th.I havent checked my social calender for August,I do know the debutante ball at the country club is in August not sure which weekend.

If your interview is in August,well dont count me out then.Dont knock suckin till youve tried it either... oh no here we go again lay a million bricks and....never mind.

If you would like to hire me as your personal secratary I will mark your daytimer for JULY 8 2005 14:00 Markham Fire Services interview,or do you not really want the job?<insert winky thing here>


Dentedhead
P.S HEE-HEE-HEE-HA-HA-HA

[Sneddy]

Excellent Sue, knew you would get a second.

I just got home from my first and well.... does anyone know how to remove a thigh from a mouth, once the foot got in I just kept on eating. Oh well, bass opener this weekend! Off to do some fishin'.


I'm freakin' out!!!!!!!1

[dentedhead]

I think I'm in love!!!!!!!!! ;) Can you sing "Ding fries are done" for me??


http://www.americanangst.com/dingfries.html

Who the F#$K do you think is singing?Ill get that bastard Lonnie and his tape recorder.He said the batteries were dead.

Dentedhead

[FFWannabe]

Oh, I am just a big fat asshole... lol... sorry, my bad.. :eek: I was in a wee bit of a hurry to get to class... it is July 9th!

Sorry... so yes, you still suck!!! lol

Sue :)

PS - Do I really want the job? I'm working on my resignation letter right now from my current job if that's any indication... oh and I've already started to pack!! lol.. okay, not really, no jinxing, no jinxing!!!! Okay, leave me alone... It's game 7!! Go Pistons!!!

[FFWannabe]

Excellent Sue, knew you would get a second.

I just got home from my first and well.... does anyone know how to remove a thigh from a mouth, once the foot got in I just kept on eating. Oh well, bass opener this weekend! Off to do some fishin'.


I'm freakin' out!!!!!!!1

Not to worry man! I wanted to take back half of the things I said... I think maybe they just liked the fact that I was polite... they took pitty on me because I had a Canadian Idol moment.. "I just want to thank you for your time, it was a pleasure to come here and meet with you." In other words, "I'm pretty sure I really messed up and don't expect to ever see you again, so thanks!" lol!!! Ah well... don't sweat it, wait it out and hopefully we'll be sitting in class in September... OH MY GOD!!! ooops... sorry, selective turrets!

Sue :)

PS - 8-6 Pistons!!

[Sneddy]

You too, I definately went Idol!!!!

" I know lots of people aplied so in case I don't get the chance I would like to say what a good match I would make to your dept....bla bla bla.

What the hell is wrong with me?

[Ladymedic]

Same thing that was wrong with probably every other person who interviewed.......NERVES. I'm sure you did great. Sue, I'm really excited for you. Will keep everything appropriate crossed for you ;)

As for the recorder DH, bet he told you the batteries in the video camera were dead too :()......but they weren't.......hehehehe

[dentedhead]

Oh, I am just a big fat asshole... lol... sorry, my bad.. :eek: I was in a wee bit of a hurry to get to class... it is July 9th!

Sorry... so yes, you still suck!!! lol

Sue :)

PS - Do I really want the job? I'm working on my resignation letter right now from my current job if that's any indication... oh and I've already started to pack!! lol.. okay, not really, no jinxing, no jinxing!!!! Okay, leave me alone... It's game 7!! Go Pistons!!!

So I take it I get the job as guy friday.

Sue you will do great. Follow all your instincts except laughing at the HR guys toupe and obvious washroom break stain,grey trousers dont hide things too well.

Why do I all of a sudden suck?Some self esteem issues here. This will set my therapy back a stage or two!

I still have a wedding on the 9th so you can count me out of any festivties.Or can you? Stalkers never quit or tip their hand regardless of the restraining orders.I couldnt make August either, working nights.

I shall remain a mystery man once againLOL.


Dentedhead

[dentedhead]

Same thing that was wrong with probably every other person who interviewed.......NERVES. I'm sure you did great. Sue, I'm really excited for you. Will keep everything appropriate crossed for you ;)

As for the recorder DH, bet he told you the batteries in the video camera were dead too :()......but they weren't.......hehehehe

Ill double answer too.

Sneddy you bring some excellent experience too the table dont sweat it.Every body will be nervous to some degree.The waiting part sucks the most.

Ms Ladymedic for your information I dont show up on film,so Lonnies out of luck.Why is that red light on Lonnie?

Besides if you want to talk pictures you really should draw your shades at night or do me a favor and get a brighter night light if I use flash you will know where Im hiding!

Dentedhead

[Ladymedic]

Gee, and all this time I thought you were just making a phone call with one of them new fangled phones. As for showing up on camera..........I do believe Lonnie had the Zoom lens on :)

[dentedhead]

Gee, and all this time I thought you were just making a phone call with one of them new fangled phones. As for showing up on camera..........I do believe Lonnie had the Zoom lens on :)

Those new phones simplify everything I can make harrassing calls and take pictures.

The lens was hidden in his paper hat. Hes pretty clever for a guy hired on the "special" program.

Dentedhead

[Sneddy]

Thanks Dude! Feelin' better after a weekend of fishin'. Its the wait that seems painful.

:)

[DoubleHelix]

Yeah man hopefully it comes soon. I start my 2 days off on Monday and those are going to be long days if the mail doesnt bring some news early.

[FFWannabe]

No sweat guys... I just took a look at the econnect website again... there are 70 spots avialable for a second interview and only 24 filled so far! Lots of spots left... best of luck! :)

Sue :)

[DoubleHelix]

Wow thats not really alot. Considering theyre hiring like 30 and then a list of say like 30-50. So those are good odds. Good Luck Sue!!!

[Red_Devil]

hey doublehelix, did ya hear anything from that first interview?

[OnFire]

just took a peek at the econnect web page are you ready? only 26 spots left and all for next week!!!!!!!!!!!!! any one else get a letter yet?

[rescue65]

do they inform you by telephone or by mail???

[FFWannabe]

just took a peek at the econnect web page are you ready? only 26 spots left and all for next week!!!!!!!!!!!!! any one else get a letter yet?

Are you sure you're reading that right... I just printed off the schedule and there's only 28 spots taken.. the ones with waitlist are booked the others are still open.. there's 42 spots left... but there's less each time!

Sue :)

[FFWannabe]

do they inform you by telephone or by mail???

By mail.. the appointments left open are mostly for June 6th to June 15th, so there's still time to book!

Sue :)

[dentedhead]

By mail.. the appointments left open are mostly for June 6th to June 15th, so there's still time to book!

Sue :)

Excuse me miss isnt that JULY 6-JULY15.

Love your guy friday,

Dentedhead

[Sneddy]

Ok, Ok ok ok kkkkk.

I just went to my interview on Thursday! Good ol' Canada post could not get me a letter by now. So I have to think that there would be enough spots available for those of us at the end of the pack. Provided I passed..lol. Remember the CPAT....two groups...heres hopein'.


Sneddy out. ha ha ha

[DoubleHelix]

Red Devil I got put back into the applicant pool and havent been able to reach Eric Krowles so havent found out where I went wrong. But 2 other guys from my college course didn't get 2nds with Mississauga either so I dont feel as bad.



I interviewed for markham almost a month ago so im kind of confused.

[FFWannabe]

Excuse me miss isnt that JULY 6-JULY15.

Love your guy friday,

Dentedhead

Holy shit, eh? Remind me never to write the reports!!! hahaha!! What is my problem with dates!!! lol

Thanks guy Friday! Much appreciated!

Sue :)

[dentedhead]

Holy shit, eh? Remind me never to write the reports!!! hahaha!! What is my problem with dates!!! lol

Thanks guy Friday! Much appreciated!

Sue :)


Women who cant remember dates frighten me.Not the evening out kind of dates.The ones that bring babies kind of dates.

Dentedhead

[FFWannabe]

Women who cant remember dates frighten me.Not the evening out kind of dates.The ones that bring babies kind of dates.

Dentedhead

haha... Oooooh, I will never forget those kind of dates!! lol... But on the other hand, my future husband, whomever he may be, will be one lucky bastard... I'll likely never remember our anniversary either! hahahaha!!!

Sue :)

[rescue65]

Does anyone know how they are selecting people for an interview? Is it soley based on interview 1 and the prevue test? or that plus your resume and qualifications ???

[Sneddy]

Whoops I just crapped out another BRICK.. oh and theres another one....

Sorry dude I have no idea how things are being done. Ya so if anyone knows anything.....

[FFWannabe]

Well judging from my extensive resume of "relative" courses and experience, but no fire fighting experience, I am going to guess they are weighing the interview and PreVue pretty heavily. I'm pretty sure that's what they've been saying all along anyway. Pass/fail for written and CPAT, and weighing the interview and PreVue. I have to admit, I'm pretty happy with that, at least I get an opportunity to show what I have to offer!!! Whippeeee!!!

Sue :)

[OnFire]

Are you sure you're reading that right... I just printed off the schedule and there's only 28 spots taken.. the ones with waitlist are booked the others are still open.. there's 42 spots left... but there's less each time!

Sue :)
Ya sorry ever one I was in a hurry at work trying not to get chought by the boss and i read the table wrong.
sorry.

[FFWannabe]

Ya sorry ever one I was in a hurry at work trying not to get chought by the boss and i read the table wrong.
sorry.

lol.. precisely why I print it!!! hahaha... Print, minimize, review!!! lol!!

Sue ;)

[DoubleHelix]

You wanna give us an update on how many spots are available?

[FFWannabe]

You wanna give us an update on how many spots are available?

lol.. okay... 20 spots available right now, 20 more that you are not able to click on to book right now... saving them for those without a letter yet, I suppose.. gives them time to get the interview booked and get ready for it I suppose!!

Woohooo... still lots of spots!! Go get 'em guys!

Sue :)

[OnFire]

Has any one tried to check on how many spots are left for interviews? I could not find it any more on the ez reg. page.
I was talking with HR today and they said that they are not useing it for 2nd interviews but I did not ask any questions as I have not recived my letter and did not want them to know I was snooping.
Troy

[FFWannabe]

Has any one tried to check on how many spots are left for interviews? I could not find it any more on the ez reg. page.
I was talking with HR today and they said that they are not useing it for 2nd interviews but I did not ask any questions as I have not recived my letter and did not want them to know I was snooping.
Troy

Weird... I just tried it too and I wasn't able to get in. I was in there yesterday and there were 3 spots left with 20 more that you were not able to book. They did not have the add button, and if you clicked on it, it said that day is not available for booking.

That is strange... maybe those three spots are filled now. There was a booking date on the "unavilable" slots for the 13th to 15th though, it was July 4th 12:00. Maybe there's another batch of letters going out today and the site will re-open for booking! I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Good luck guys! Sue :)

[DoubleHelix]

I called today about my eye testing question and im in the clear so thats good.

Still havent heard anything but hopefully be the end of this week as the chief who interviewed me said they'll let us know early July.

Theyre having meetings right now so maybe its on who should continue forward because all the people I know who have gotten seconds have interviewed with Nadine so maybe she hasn't got a chance to look over everyones yet.

I don't se though how 70 second interviews will make up 30 being hired immediately and then a list of like 50 or so. For instance Mississauga interviews like 5 for every 1 hire so who knows. Good luck everyone!!

[FFWannabe]

Hey Dh2, I heard it was 24-30 for first class with the opportunity for another class of the same size when needed at a later date, but then again that is also hearsay. 30 now and up to 50 later doesn't make sense at all actually if you do the math... lol... they are only interviewing 70, so not likely to hire 80! hee hee! ;)

I hope you guys get your letters soon. My guess is it's a few batches of letters. I'm going to check the ex reg tomorrow and see if I can get on.

Best of luck boys! Sue :)

[DoubleHelix]

Well at the info session they said around 30 and then a list because theres a possibility of 2 or 3 new stations being built really soon as theyre expanding quite alot. I could definetly see them doing in batches. Hopefully im in the batch :)

[FFWannabe]

Makes sense! Fingers are crossed!

Sue :)

[rescue65]

No new is always good news! Anyone else hear anything at all??? Good or bad?

[Mike13]

haven't heard anything yet either. sure is difficult to keep waiting and wondering. oh well, there's always hope until you hear otherwise. to those who have 2nd's, how long did you have to wait for your letter? good luck to all!

[Sneddy]

Nothing yet here either... I will let everyone know!!


Still hopein'

[dentedhead]

Nothing yet here either... I will let everyone know!!


Still hopein'

No noose is good noose said the hangman to the condemmed man.Not that your condemmed it just feels like it keep the faith buddy!

Dentedhead

[Sneddy]

Still no noose!

[Mike13]

nothing here yet either.

[DoubleHelix]

same here, ive finally stopped thinking about it though until I come on here.

[Mike13]

ya i know what you mean. at least knowing that there's a few of us in the same boat gives hope to there being another batch.

[OnFire]

this is just a rumour i have heard.
letters going out till the 15th in no order. (this is fact)
interview 150-200 for 2nds
list of 100 to be made
not uesing ez reg anymore to book interviews

[Sneddy]

Thanks Onfire for the info, it helps maintain the faith.

Ya... and good to know that I'm not in this boat alone.


Good Luck Guys!

Ed

[Mike13]

thanks onfire, like sneddy said, its good to have some hope. hope all your info is accurate. hang in there guys.

[FFWannabe]

Shitters, I was speaking with Christina last night and did not ask her how many interviews, etc. I'll be there on Friday and afterwards I will ask how big the final pool is!!

She called me last night to remind me of what paperwork to take with me and we talked about the interview for a few minutes. Nice lady. If I can think of a reason to call her before Friday, I'll ask then, but I don't want to bug her... she called last night just before 8, I got the message and called back at 9 thinking I was going to be leaving her a message with my work and cell numbers and she was still there... man, they must be putting in a lot of hours to get through this!

That makes sense onfire, that they will be sending out more letters, makes the numbers they are wanting to hire make more sense as well! Best of luck chaps!!! :)

Sue :)

[Sneddy]

Yep....still nothing, but hey, I got my 407 bill.

[FFWannabe]

Yep....still nothing, but hey, I got my 407 bill.

lol..thanks for the reminder, I still have to pay mine... no more 407! hahhaa!!!

Sue :)

[Mike13]

still nothing...but no bills, so not all bad i guess. good luck on friday sue!

[dentedhead]

lol..thanks for the reminder, I still have to pay mine... no more 407! hahhaa!!!

Sue :)


You have to watch those pr@#ks.I had a 6month fight with them I had transponder too boot.

I won BTW.

Dentedhead

[DoubleHelix]

I love it when they send bills with a big ZERO on them. Idiots wasting paper.

[dentedhead]

I love it when they send bills with a big ZERO on them. Idiots wasting paper.

Yup, but heaven forbid you pay a day late.I know guys with names that end in a vowel who have less subtle collection methods and better interest rates.

Dentedhead

[DoubleHelix]

Got the kiss off letter today. Oh well. I guess I better start planning to move and start volunteering.

[Sneddy]

Dude sorry to hear that ...I was rootin' fer ya.

still nothin' here...

[Mike13]

sorry for ya helix, i got the same letter today myself. it sucks but what else can you do but move on. i heard brampton's recruiting in the fall. good luck sneddy, hope your letter is different.

[Leslie_79]

I was waiting for a letter but I got a call today saying that I made it to the next interview! And of course they called my cell when I was in the car with no pen. I had to pull over and search frantically for some sort of writing utensil. I was so flustered and excited that I didn't ask where the interview was. Can someone help me out? Sue I know you had your interview, hope it went well. Could you tell me if it’s at the same place as the last interviews so I don't have to call them back and ask them such a stupid question? Thanks :) Good luck to all who made it through!

[Sneddy]

Leslie thats crazy...

So... I was freaking out waiting for the mail....nowww...I get to crap my pants everytime the phone rings.

Wwooo hoooo feels good!

[OnFire]

Ya I recived my call today as well I was told that a letter will still be sent but this was to give me a heads up on the paper work needed for the interview.

[FFWannabe]

Sorry to hear that Dh and Mike, but yes, keep on trucking, I've heard the TO and Vaughan will be doing a recruitment within the next year! And Dh, you're writing for Brockville next week.... There's always more!

Good job Leslie and OnFire. I haven't had my second interview yet, it's tomorrow (I sooo should be asleep right now), but yes, it is at the same place; 438 John Street the old Thornhill Station!

Good luck guys!!! How cool would it be if we all ended up in the same drill school this fall!!! Woooohoooo.. the firehall.com invasion! lol

Sue :)

[DoubleHelix]

Good luck everyone!!

When I graduated I said to myself im fine with it taking like 1-5 years to get hired but when you start getting interviews its really depressing.

As much as a interview is awesome experience its kind of a false hope sometimes.

But im still 20 years old so I got lots of time.

I'm rooting for all of you to be part of that 50-100 people who get hired.

[rescue65]

Markham prides themselves on customer service....do they let you know where you went wrong with some explanation? or is it just like every other city where they just say thanks, but no thanks.

[DoubleHelix]

true that would be so much better
Mississauga called me Wednesday and the hr women that interviewed me gave me some feedback and what I can work on for next time they hire and it was awesome.

[Sneddy]

Well.... just got the letter,m wish I got the call!

Guess I will wait for HR to call and tell me where I went wrong.

Til' next time...

Ed

[Mike13]

tough break sneddy. hang in there though, most guys i know who got on went through a few of these before succeeding. it sure is frustrating though especially considering all the time and money put into it.

DH, you've definitely got time on your side, so don't worry, just chalk it up as a learning experience.

best of luck to all those moving on.

[FFWannabe]

Sorry to hear that Ed, but there are other recruitments, keep working at it.

I had my second interview yesterday. The nice thing was, I didn't feel as nervous as the first time, familiar faces helped, but I was still a bag of nerves. I felt like I answered the questions a little better, but time will tell if it was what they were looking for. I was honest and myself and I hope it was enough! :)

Good luck everyone!!! :)

Sue :)

[PeTeRpArKeR]

To everyone who made it to second interview.. WAY TO GO !!!
To the ones that didn,t.. I also feel your pain. This was my first recruitment and though I know logically there will likely be many more, it is still depressing.. I am also only 20 DH so we likely got a ways to go..
Does anyone know if I can call Markham to get feedback on where (or how many ways) I went wrong??
Spidey Out....

[scoop422]

Sue, you were just yourself? I hope they still hire you! JUST KIDDING! I'm sure it went well.

[LtBlondie]

Good on ya Sue! sounds like you made some kind of impression....just what kind? lol All the best to all who are struggling to get the best job in the world..

[FLASHOVER05]

Sue I just Know ya did real well.... Trust,Good luck with it!!!!!
Can't wait for some more good news from ya!

[pilotboy12]

Hey fellow Markham applicants,

First, I am new here (and to the whole firefighting application process in general) and have been very impressed with all the support that you guys give each other. It makes me glad that I decided to (at least try to) become a firefighter.

Second, to all those that didn't get the second interview (warning, what follows is considered dangerously cheesy!): Keep your chins up! Life is going to toss you A LOT of lemons, and you gots to keep making the lemonade...

Third, why am I listing these? I was lucky enough to get a 2nd interview, and it went pretty well...self-analysis is always difficult, but I think they got the general "pilotboy12" vibe...the mojo was working that day (I think I was the 1st interview too...Mon. July 4th 9AM)

Now I wait for my Driver's abstract and Police Security Clearance to come in the mail...luckily they said that I could bring these back to them as soon as I get them.

I wish everyone here the best of luck...

[FFWannabe]

Ohh, we have a couple of comedians in here, eh?! lol!!! Interview went much better this time than last time, but I am still left with an uneasy feeling, simply because it's a very scary process! haha! Scary that I may be very disappointed in a few weeks, and scary because I may get the chance to start a new career really soon (that's good scary though... YAY!). I guess time will tell, just a couple of weeks now (that is going to seem like an eternity). I sat with the same Deputy Chief and Nadine this time, Christina signed me in (she was in my interview last time), so the familiar faces really helped! I stammered a little, because you know me, I'm just not a talkative person! hee hee! :rolleyes:

The rest of the weekend was awesome, a flying tire hit my car windshield, I locked myself out of the car on the way down there and had to crawl in the hatch, I got myself a nice little tan and we got my Aunt really drunk! hahaha! All in all, it was time well spent!!!

Take care gang and best of luck to you pilotboy!!

Sue :)

PS - Pilotboy, did you give them your list of references while you were there?

[pilotboy12]

Glad to hear that the interview went well for ya!

I know what you mean about the Scary-ness of it all, most job interviews are stressful, but this one has your whole career hanging on it...

They did not ask me for my references, but that could be because they (and I) am waiting for my Police Ref check + Driver's abstract. I think they are going to be contacting people for that stuff by phone, at least that's what the Application Manual sez.

Sounds like your weekend was (at minimum) entertaining!

Good luck to all out there.

[FFWannabe]

Glad to hear that the interview went well for ya!

I know what you mean about the Scary-ness of it all, most job interviews are stressful, but this one has your whole career hanging on it...

They did not ask me for my references, but that could be because they (and I) am waiting for my Police Ref check + Driver's abstract. I think they are going to be contacting people for that stuff by phone, at least that's what the Application Manual sez.

Sounds like your weekend was (at minimum) entertaining!

Good luck to all out there.

Thanks man!! I read in the manual that they would call for them as well, but I was pretty sure Christina told me to have them ready for the interview... guess having them ready and handing them over are two different things... lol! I need to find something to get worked up about!!! lol!!

Sue :)

[Rainman]

Ok, so the second interview is done but I forgot to ask a very important question? When will we be finding out if we made it and how will we be contacted? The suspense is killing me.

To all those who are waiting best of luck and hope to see you in the end.

[FFWannabe]

Ok, so the second interview is done but I forgot to ask a very important question? When will we be finding out if we made it and how will we be contacted? The suspense is killing me.

To all those who are waiting best of luck and hope to see you in the end.

I gathered from the handbook that they will call you for your references, then make their final decisions the last week of July and will be offering jobs the first week of August(ish)! For some reason, I believe they will be calling for job offers as well! I check my voicemails at home about 6 times a day, but I'm not freaking out!!! lol :eek:

Sue :)

[Leslie_79]

Ok, I have a question about references. Do you think it matters if I have 2 references from my current job or should they be from different jobs? Did anyone else use more than one person as a reference from their current job or does anyone know if this is allowable? I am freakin out already and I haven't even done the interview yet! Best of luck to everyone. We could be in training in less than 2 months!! How scary (good scary) is that?!

[FFWannabe]

Hi Leslie,

she'll tell you on the phone when she calls a couple of days before your interview. I am pretty sure I was told at least three work references. I have one from my job, two from my current customer (Costco buying office) and two from a previous job. I was thinking of going back to a few years ago and using another one as well. I think the farther you can go back the better, so they can establish a pattern of your work behavior... two from your current job is good, but more from earlier is likely better.

Of course I am assuming all of this, but I did a police interview a couple of years back and they requested enough to show a pattern... makes sense!

Good luck with the upcoming interview and may I ask, are you Leslie girl, or Leslie boy! haha! It's sometimes hard to tell... just ask firebabs!! heee heee!!

Sue :)

[OnFire]

Ok, I have a question about references. Do you think it matters if I have 2 references from my current job or should they be from different jobs? Did anyone else use more than one person as a reference from their current job or does anyone know if this is allowable? I am freakin out already and I haven't even done the interview yet! Best of luck to everyone. We could be in training in less than 2 months!! How scary (good scary) is that?!
when is your interview?
does anyone know a final # for sure of how many there will be interviwed for second interviews? and when Markham will be done interviwing?

[firebabs222]

What do you mean.......What are you talking about........

[dentedhead]

What do you mean.......What are you talking about........


Oh relax Barbara.

Dentedhead

[FFWannabe]

What do you mean.......What are you talking about........

See, you mention being a girl and babs comes out to play! lol!

Sue ;)

[firebabs222]

Hey DH, that's Mr. Barbara to you

[OnFire]

What do you mean.......What are you talking about........
1. was wondering when Leslie's interview is with Markham because they interview aprox 7 a day and started on the 4th so you can get a good guess @ the # being intervied?
2. does anyone know the last day of 2nd interviews with Markham?
3. does anyone know the true # of people that recived a 2nd interview with Markham?

[dentedhead]

Hey DH, that's Mr. Barbara to you


Ladies and gentleman Mr Barbara Striesand,I knew sumpin about you was different.

Dentedhead

[Leslie_79]

I asked when they called me for my second interview about how many got through to the second interview and Nadine said that she wasn't allowed to give out that information. My interview is on Tuesday.
Leslie (the girl) :)

[DFCSmash]

How many spots again? Sometimes you can work it off of application #'s, but not in this case...30000 applicants :rolleyes: lol I would hazard a guess of 4 or 5 X vacant positions. Final candidates will be 1.5 X Vacancies. Calls will go out from the top to the bottom of the final list. rated on suitability, not alphabet or order the apps came in.

When I applied to Office of the Fire Commissioner, 5 positions, 300 applicants, 50 first interviews, 20 second interviews, 8 candidates for the 5 positions. (I was one of the 8)

[pilotboy12]

To quote Keanu Reeves in The Matrix: "Whoa!"

So many questions, so many jokes, so few answers..

I got the impression from the on-line sign-up for 2nd interviews that there were about 70 slots for 2nd interviews...whether that changed or not, I don't know.

I DO know that they are looking to hire a Recruiting class of 25-30 individuals for September and that there will be a list of candidates that they will hold onto for another recruitment in the upcoming years.

pilotboy12

[FFWannabe]

All I know is the website had 70 spots available until Friday the 15th of July. I believe they are doing one more week, and if it's 6-7 per day, you're looking at another 30-35, so 100 or just over. They are hiring enough to fill one hall in September (24-30) and another hall in 2007, and two more in 2010 and 2011, but you never know they might hire sooner as population growth is projected between 43-50 thousand per year.
I would hazard a guess that they took their top 100 picks and are working from there! :)

I figure at this stage, I can't worry about that anymore, I've done all I can now and just have to hope for the best!! :D

WoooooHooooo!!!! Time for a nap! :)

Sue :)

[dentedhead]

To quote Keanu Reeves in The Matrix: "Whoa!" Qoute pilotboy

Only the Matrix,I thought that was his catch phraseLOL.

Dentedhead

[DoubleHelix]

All I know is the website had 70 spots available until Friday the 15th of July. I believe they are doing one more week, and if it's 6-7 per day, you're looking at another 30-35, so 100 or just over. They are hiring enough to fill one hall in September (24-30) and another hall in 2007, and two more in 2010 and 2011, but you never know they might hire sooner as population growth is projected between 43-50 thousand per year.
I would hazard a guess that they took their top 100 picks and are working from there! :)

I figure at this stage, I can't worry about that anymore, I've done all I can now and just have to hope for the best!! :D

WoooooHooooo!!!! Time for a nap! :)

Sue :)

The list is only valid for 2 years though so those projected 5 years from now will be a whole different recruitment. You probaly knew that but just thought id point it out.

[FFWannabe]

The list is only valid for 2 years though so those projected 5 years from now will be a whole different recruitment. You probaly knew that but just thought id point it out.

Sorry bro, thought it was a given, same way it's run here in Ottawa. :)

Sue :)

[iamvff]

(I was one of the 8)

And how is that truckers pention working out for ya??? About the same as the autoglass guys pention!!?? :D

iamvff

[DFCSmash]

eggsactlly! :D

[FFWannabe]

Hey Vanson! Here we are! I thought I had posted in here the other day about phone calls for references, but it appears I didn't! hahaha! Pretty sure, as Interview Coach said, they are doing interviews most of this week. I can't get over how well this is all running in such a short time span. Apparently they spend some pretty late nights at the office making sure it all runs smoothly. I bet they will be almost as happy as us (hopefully happy... lol) when the final decisions have been made!

Once again, best of luck to all!
Sue :)

[OnFire]

Anyone with an new news?
anyone had any of there references contacted or been contacted about there references?????
What about you "Leslie 79" I think you had the most recent interview did you find out anything new?

[FFWannabe]

Apparently they should have asked for your references in the interview. If they didn't, give them a call and get them in!!

Sue :)

[Rainman]

Ok, so I'm officially bugging out!!!! Every time the phone rings I'm wondering "WHAT IF" I'm just not sure how I am going to handle it in both senses, if it's going to be yes or no? Oh well I guess I just need to relax a little.

[FFWannabe]

Ok, so I'm officially bugging out!!!! Every time the phone rings I'm wondering "WHAT IF" I'm just not sure how I am going to handle it in both senses, if it's going to be yes or no? Oh well I guess I just need to relax a little.

Yeah, I hear yeah bud... the suspense is killing me! haha! I called home today to check my messages and I was excited to hear I had two new ones... WooooHoooo.... yeah, both of them were faxes... lol!

Sue ;)

[DoubleHelix]

Yeah, I hear yeah bud... the suspense is killing me! haha! I called home today to check my messages and I was excited to hear I had two new ones... WooooHoooo.... yeah, both of them were faxes... lol!

Sue ;)


LOL Seinfeld anyone? That episode is awesome.

[Leslie_79]

My interview went pretty well. They told me that they would be notifying us around the end of July so we have about another week to wait... well at least I do, you guys had your interviews earlier so I'm guessing you will probably hear sooner. They asked for my references and a bunch of people came in with there references while I was sitting waiting, so get them in if you don't have them in already. They said that they would call us and let us know if we made it through before they call references. Then the medical and then we are in! HOLY... I feel like i'm gonna puke 24/7... I thought i was sick but i think its just nerves. Hope everyone hears good news! Good luck to all.

[FFWannabe]

LOL Seinfeld anyone? That episode is awesome.

What, I've missed a Sienfeld episode???? How is that possible?? I can't believe it... hahaha!

Sue :)

[DoubleHelix]

You don't remember when Kraemar gives elaines phone number for some business or something because he thinks she has a fax and thats all she hears on messages and when it rings?

[FFWannabe]

You don't remember when Kraemar gives elaines phone number for some business or something because he thinks she has a fax and thats all she hears on messages and when it rings?

Oh crap, yes, now I remember... hahahaha... and it drove her crazy! I feel her pain... a few weeks ago I got faxes at 5am on Saturday and Sunday mornings!!! I get up at 5am all week, I don't need to on the weekend! lol...

Yeah, that was a really funny one!!!

Sue :)

[pilotboy12]

Oh Seinfeld...I know this is off topic but one of my favorite exchanges:

George: Yeah! Look at me! I was free and clear! I was living the dream! I was stripped to the waist, eating a block of cheese the size of a car battery!

Jerry: Before we go any further, I'd just like to point out how disturbing it is that you equate eating a block of cheese with some sort of bachelor paradise.

George: Don't you see? I'm back in.

Jerry: All because of Wrath of Khan?

George: Yes!

Jerry: Well, it was the best of those movies.

George: KHAAAAAAAANNNN!

Back to the topic - I think next week is going to be Bananas for all of us hoping to find out...usually i'm a pretty calm person but geez this waiting game is tough. I'd rather be playing Hungry hungry Hippos...

[FFWannabe]

SERENITY NOW!!!!


Sue :)

[So close]

Anybody else suffering the intense agony of the "Wait"? It's killing me!! Anybody heard anything?

[FFWannabe]

Anybody else suffering the intense agony of the "Wait"? It's killing me!! Anybody heard anything?

Oh, the wait!!! I am definitely feeling that agony!!! lol... Not knowing where I will be in 6 weeks is an interesting feeling! The calendar says it they are making their decisions this week and we should be hearing soon either way!

Not too long now!!!
Sue :)

[AFFALifer]

Me again....the guy that often reads but rarely posts. I too am waitng word from Markham. I am glad that none have you have heard yet either. It brings hope into my little corner of the world. I hope to meet many of you at the recruit class on Spetember 6th.

They did say that they would let us know by the end of this week. What a way too start a long weekend, either on a extreme high or the exact opposite. Good luck to you all. I have a good feeling about this one, a feeling that I havent had along my ventures into the world of fire recruitements. God my wife is even keeping her legs crossed for me. I wasnt partial to that plan, but hell whatever floats your boat.

My interview wasnt until last Wednesday at 7:00 pm so they have a lot too look at and make the right decisions in a short time frame. I am sure they are having just as hard a time with this as we are.

Again good luck guys and girls.

[FFWannabe]

My interview wasnt until last Wednesday at 7:00 pm so they have a lot too look at and make the right decisions in a short time frame. I am sure they are having just as hard a time with this as we are.

Again good luck guys and girls.

I would bet they are having an even harder time, if you could imagine it! lol They are working tediously, it sure has been a quick and well run process! Fingers and toes are crossed for everyone! Sorry to hear about your wife's legs! lol... sorry couldn't resist, that was funny!

Sue :)

[AFFALifer]

Well another day and no news yet........... I'm sticking to the old addage that no news is good news.

Let me know when you guys here.

[FFWannabe]

Well another day and no news yet........... I'm sticking to the old addage that no news is good news.

Let me know when you guys here.

I was told we would hear either way by the first week of August, so relax until Tuesday and enjoy the long weekend!!! :)

Sue :)

[Leslie_79]

First of August..awwwww. I heard the last week of July but I might not have been listening, my head was spinning by the end of the interview. I am complaining but Sue is right, these people have done an amazing job with this recruitment which i'm sure is a reflection of their department, which makes me want the job even more. Damn it, why can't i come up with this flattery when it's crunch time in the interviews. Maybe someone from HR is monitoring this message board and Sue and I will get in for our ass kissing abilities :) I think everyone should say something nice about HR and the department just in case. Good luck to all, i'll see you in training Sue (kidding, don't want to jinx you, or myself!!)

[DoubleHelix]

Does that mean if I do some ass kissing they'll call me back and renounce the deny letter they sent me?

:(

[FFWannabe]

First of August..awwwww. I heard the last week of July but I might not have been listening, my head was spinning by the end of the interview. I am complaining but Sue is right, these people have done an amazing job with this recruitment which i'm sure is a reflection of their department, which makes me want the job even more. Damn it, why can't i come up with this flattery when it's crunch time in the interviews. Maybe someone from HR is monitoring this message board and Sue and I will get in for our ass kissing abilities :) I think everyone should say something nice about HR and the department just in case. Good luck to all, i'll see you in training Sue (kidding, don't want to jinx you, or myself!!)

I always try to end my interviews that way, "Thank you very much for your time. It has certainly been a wonderful experience to this point. I look forward to hearing from you soon!" Although I have been to a couple of job interviews when I didn't say that because it wasn't true!!!! lol...
I would be happy if they would call us tomorrow or Friday, the sooner I know whether they are calling my references, the better.... eeeks, I have to find a place to call home permanently and get Little Wannabe ready for school... oh and get her to stop hating me for making her move.... lol... Poor Little Wannabe! Either way, only one of us will be happy with the outcome for a little while!

WooooHoooo... .almost there guys and gals!!

Sue :)

[PeTeRpArKeR]

I must admit to being sooooooooo jealous of you guys moving on. I am still stinging from my rejection. LOL. Serously though, I am watching the messages and sending you all good luck !!
Spidey out.

[OnFire]

I must admit to being sooooooooo jealous of you guys moving on. I am still stinging from my rejection. LOL. Serously though, I am watching the messages and sending you all good luck !!
Spidey out.
Thanks for the support for everyone!!
It just goes to show what firefighting is all about one BIG family in one way or another

[FFWannabe]

I must admit to being sooooooooo jealous of you guys moving on. I am still stinging from my rejection. LOL. Serously though, I am watching the messages and sending you all good luck !!
Spidey out.

That's really nice Spidey! There will be more recruitments and you be hired where the fit is perfect for You!! :) Thanks for the support!

Sue :)

[dentedhead]

A little heads up! My buddies son has recieved his call for medical and references.With a job offer to follow pending a positive outcome.He did his medical and is waiting to hear back from MFD/HR.They told him about a week.Stay by the phone kids.Best wishes to all.

Dentedhead

[FFWannabe]

A little heads up! My buddies son has recieved his call for medical and references.With a job offer to follow pending a positive outcome.He did his medical and is waiting to hear back from MFD/HR.They told him about a week.Stay by the phone kids.Best wishes to all.

Dentedhead


Eeeks, when did they call him, do you know? If he's already done his medical, he must have been called at least a few days ago, no? Fingers crossed for everyone. I hope to hear some good news, for any of us!!!

Best of luck guys, for real, I hope we all get phone calls!!!

Sue :)

PS - My anxiety level just took a spike!!!! :eek:

[dentedhead]

[QUOTE=FFWannabe]Eeeks, when did they call him, do you know? If he's already done his medical, he must have been called at least a few days ago, no? Fingers crossed for everyone. I hope to hear some good news, for any of us!!!

Best of luck guys, for real, I hope we all get phone calls!!!

Sue :)

PS - My anxiety level just took a spike!!!! :eek:[/QUOTES

Sorry,didnt mean to cause anyone anxiety,just wanted to let you all know the calls are going out.

I feel so horrible,Im sorry, I am sorry, I am so sorry, Im sorry.-Mel Lastman after making untoward remarks about being cooked in a pot or eaten by snakes if he went to Africa.

Dentedhead

[FFWannabe]

[QUOTE=FFWannabe]Eeeks, when did they call him, do you know? If he's already done his medical, he must have been called at least a few days ago, no? Fingers crossed for everyone. I hope to hear some good news, for any of us!!!

Best of luck guys, for real, I hope we all get phone calls!!!

Sue :)

PS - My anxiety level just took a spike!!!! :eek:[/QUOTES

Sorry,didnt mean to cause anyone anxiety,just wanted to let you all know the calls are going out.

I feel so horrible,Im sorry, I am sorry, I am so sorry, Im sorry.-Mel Lastman after making untoward remarks about being cooked in a pot or eaten by snakes if he went to Africa.

Dentedhead

Hey no sweat bud!!! Let's be honest, my anxiety level has been somewhat high all week! hahaha!!!

If the phone rings, it rings, if it doesn't then it's harder work the next time!! :)

Sue :)

[So close]

Staring helplessly at phone...

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Hey Guys.. You are making my anxiety level go up and I'm not even in the running !!!!!!!! LOL !!!!

[FFWannabe]

Staring helplessly at phone...

lol... are you willing it to ring too... Mine isn't playing along... I did have three messages at home from someone's fax machine though! haha!

Sue :)

[So close]

Ah...the fax machine. I've had one calling me from Toronto for six years. Usually early in the morning. 2:00am, 3:00am what kind of insane work-aholic is this! Well it's 4:45pm... don't think it's going to ring now. Let's all stay positive. (But I was so close!) Don't worry I'll keep it together. There is always Tuesday!!

[pilotboy12]

Huh...what? It looks like I might be needing some "Depends" undergarments cuz i'm crappin' my pants here...

Still no word for me either...

Spidey (love that name), thanks for the encouragement...it makes me realize why I decided to pursue Firefighting as a Career.

Have a good weekend and (as "so close" alluded to) there is always next week!

[So close]

Ok, let's all relax a little bit. If there's anything that I've learned from doing recruitments it's that there is a lot of bullshit floating around and don't believe anyone until you hear it for yourself. I may seem new here but I've been logging on for a while, it's nice to know others are in the same boat as it is often said in here, however, it seems to me that most of you have your heads screwed on right and seem like good candidates. So, I choose to look on the bright side, enjoy my long weekend, and not freak out until one of you or me gets the call. Because odds are one of us will and we will all know for sure. Have a great weekend everybody!!

[k-dub]

Hi Folks

I've already had to change my shorts three times today after reading that someone already got called. If there are any more of you out there please let us know so we regroup and get ready for the next recruitment. I haven't heard and not hearing scares me to death. I'm afraid to get the mail every day cause I know if I didn't get chosen thats how the news is coming.

Good luck to all, I hope to meet you all in September. Trying to keep up the hope.

[DoubleHelix]

I hope you all start in September but don't forget about the "List". It could be just as good.

[midway]

Well I decided to check the mail on the way to the pool (day off and I needed a 1/2 hr swim) and sure enough there was "the" letter. I didn't really need to open it, but it did thank me for my time and say that I was unsuccessful. No, not even on the list, oh well time to get ready for the next one.
Good luck to those with their fingers still crossed and good on ya' to those moving on.


p.s. I've been stopping by to read here for a while now and I thought that I would finally say hay there. Only wish it was with better news.

[FFWannabe]

Hey midway,

Sorry to hear that. I too am in letter waiting mode. I checked my messages one last at 4:55 before leaving work on Friday and figured I might as well not fret over it and have a good weekend (and I did... lol).

On to the next recruitment, my friend. There's a job out there for all of us!!! :)

Best of luck with the next one, chin up so you can see it coming! ;)

Sue :)

PS - welcome to the boards!

[PeTeRpArKeR]

Hey buddy.. I know what that feels like.. I got the "LETTER" right after the prevue test. Like Sue says, there will be other recruitments. Feel proud you made it as far as you did !!
Can't sign off without wishing everyone else GOOD LUCK again.
Spidey out.

[FFWannabe]

Okay, so I got the letter today in the mail, it's not so bad. I have been chosen as a pre-qualified candidate and there was something about meeting again in September to discuss this (I left the letter in the car...). Basically I guess, if they need to fill more spots, I won't need to "qualify" further. That's pretty cool. Down but not out....

Sue :)

[Rainman]

O.K. so now I'm freaking out!!! Not only am i scared when the phone rings but now I'm scared of the mail man.

Hang in there Sue, I can tell your a fighter you are sure to get in somewhere.

Time to go home and check the answering machine then the mail box.

[Leslie_79]

I got the letter too. The "good" letter. I am on the eligibility list too. I'm happy but it kind of throws everything up in the air. If I got on, then I would move to Markham, if i didn't get on, I am enrolled in fire school for september and I would move to Kitchener and go to school. Now I don't know what to do. Do I go to school? Do I wait and see if I get the job? The letter says that there will be an info session in September but school will already have started! WHAT DO I DO!? I wish I knew how many are on the list and how many they will hire from it (or where I am on the list). Maybe I will call HR next week some time and find out, I'm sure they are busy enough this week. Anyone have any suggestions? Good luck to everyone else... congrats Sue, maybe I will see you in training after all, eventually. :)

[FFWannabe]

hey Leslie, I was told the next class is scheduled to graduate early in 2007, so will likely start in December of 2006. That's what DC Snowball told me in the interview. I wouldn't put anything on hold for a "just in case". If it's going to be at least a year, you've got that time for schooling... I would go for the course and go from there! Just my thinking anyway!!!

Congrats!!! Sue :)

[dentedhead]

I got the letter too. The "good" letter. I am on the eligibility list too. I'm happy but it kind of throws everything up in the air. If I got on, then I would move to Markham, if i didn't get on, I am enrolled in fire school for september and I would move to Kitchener and go to school. Now I don't know what to do. Do I go to school? Do I wait and see if I get the job? The letter says that there will be an info session in September but school will already have started! WHAT DO I DO!? I wish I knew how many are on the list and how many they will hire from it (or where I am on the list). Maybe I will call HR next week some time and find out, I'm sure they are busy enough this week. Anyone have any suggestions? Good luck to everyone else... congrats Sue, maybe I will see you in training after all, eventually. :)


You wouldnt be the first to quit school for a job.Start school if thats what you planned. It can only help.

Dentedhead

[OnFire]

So I been wating for the "letter" and I have now recived it.... It was not the "good one" so with my head held high I move on to the next hiring. I talked with HR and they will be sending out feedback to thous who request it in mid. sept. Good luck to everyone still in the running for Markham. One day I will call myself a FIREFIGHTER just not today.

[DoubleHelix]

Sorry to hear about the ones that didn't make it but just chalk it up as experience. Thats how I try to look at it but when you see yourself as so close its definetly a tough pill to swallow.

And to those who made it or made the list, CONGRATS!!!!!.

Sure you're gonna have to wait a year or two but Markham is growing like crazy and you'll be there soon enough.

[ABFF37]

I think DH and FFWannabe are right, don't say no to school. Fire school is a great investment these days, especially as more and more full time departments seem to be moving towards making it a manditory qualification. Plus as a graduate of a fire college you will be even more of a qualified candidate than you already obviously are, as evident by your success in this recruitment process.

I worked for 5 or 6 years towards becoming a full time firefighter, and when I got my job offer I was in the middle of university. It didn't take me two seconds to make up my mind, I left school and started the career that I had always dreamed of. But I stayed in school right until the last minute because you just never know. I think it's a decision best made when the situation is there in front of you, rather than in anticipation of what the future might hold. All the best, and good luck!!!

AB:)