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FireFly810
11-30-2003, 11:25 PM
Is a female role different than a male fire fighters?
Firegirl23
12-11-2003, 04:55 AM
In general no I don't think that a females role as a firefighter is different than a males. We are still expected to hold our own and do the best that we can do same as the men. We all have things that we are more capable of doing better than others regardless of sex. It is just a matter of knowing your own strengths and weaknesses as well as those on your team. That is what makes a team work.
Station208C4
01-24-2004, 03:53 AM
Within My Fire Company, a Female FF is just the same as a Male FF. We all put our gear on the same way, fight a fire the same way & so forth. We currently have 7 Female FFs within our Company & they do (sometimes) a better job than their Male Counterparts.
I hold very high respects for ALL WOMEN whom are involved with the Emergency Services. My mom was a Police Officer for close to 10 years, She was the First Female Officer within the Dept she worked for. Yes the looks were there when she arrested someone, but she performed her job extremely well.
Any woman that joins a Fire Dept, who is willing to get down on their knees crawling thru a smoked filled room, handling a line, whether it be the nozzle or a back up, comes back out, helps with the clean up ops & so forth gets quite a bit of respect from me!
weeman13
01-29-2004, 01:11 PM
I think females are just as good as males. They have to go through the same testing as us guys. I have seen some women that put me to shame. I work ems as well and I prefer women partners. The reason for this is due to women pts and sometimes a woman can diffuse a situation easier than a male.
weeman13@firehall.com
CFDFF
02-02-2004, 09:19 AM
I'll give you a one word answer.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
A female FF
Station208C4
02-09-2004, 01:10 AM
Why are women not good for ems??
Saying NO!! leaves alot of un answered questions.
CFDFF
02-09-2004, 08:53 AM
I replied NO to the idea that female and male roles are not and should not be different.
Station208C4
02-21-2004, 06:58 PM
Respectfully understood. I can very much agree with you, the roles should be always the same.
scooter_13
07-05-2004, 04:30 PM
they shouldn't however get special treatment. equal rights across the board. not because of a gender should someone get a job. it has to be based on the individuals performace and i know a couple gals that can out do most guys!!!!
wannabe
07-06-2004, 05:36 AM
I agree.. and trust me, the gals don't want or need the special treatment. :)
Paula
Whitewater_419
07-06-2004, 06:03 AM
Indeed. A firefighter can either do the job or they can't - period. Any other consideration is valueless.
wilderness
07-06-2004, 06:47 AM
Let's be honest you can either do the job or you can,t.
The old school attitude, about it's a boys club is gone or should be
We have ladies on our station that give 110% and have guys that only give 80%. The ladies are there for the training and the firecalls and the guys who only give 80% show up when they want. We are not vollies we are firefighters "PERIOD". So for the ladies who give 110% cheers and for the guys who give 80% tisk tisk. Gentlemen take note the Ladies are here to stay and this is good thing. :D "this might ruffle a few feathers"
ruralbumpkin
09-08-2006, 05:59 AM
Let's be honest you can either do the job or you can,t.
The old school attitude, about it's a boys club is gone or should be
We have ladies on our station that give 110% and have guys that only give 80%. The ladies are there for the training and the firecalls and the guys who only give 80% show up when they want. We are not vollies we are firefighters "PERIOD". So for the ladies who give 110% cheers and for the guys who give 80% tisk tisk. Gentlemen take note the Ladies are here to stay and this is good thing. :D "this might ruffle a few feathers"
When you say, "and this is a good thing", what are you really referring to?
Just would like to know.
oldboot
09-08-2006, 06:08 AM
I don’t give a shittt what or who you are as long as you can and will do the job when it needs to be done.
That being said there is a difference between the two that I just can’t seem to put my hand on! :)
ruralbumpkin
09-08-2006, 06:17 AM
Still waiting Wilderness.....
FFWannabe
09-08-2006, 06:21 AM
I don’t give a shittt what or who you are as long as you can and will do the job when it needs to be done.
That being said there is a difference between the two that I just can’t seem to put my hand on! :)
hee hee... probably because you're not allowed to!! ;)
Sue :)
ABFF37
09-08-2006, 06:22 AM
Still waiting Wilderness.....
Relax ruralbumpkin...you only asked the question 18 minutes ago:rolleyes:
AB:p
ruralbumpkin
09-08-2006, 06:39 AM
Relax ruralbumpkin...you only asked the question 18 minutes ago:rolleyes:
AB:p
Just wanna apply a little pressure there AB.
irsqyu
09-08-2006, 06:49 AM
When you say, "and this is a good thing", what are you really referring to?
Just would like to know.
I am with Wilderness on this one, I have a lady on my crew and she is equal to anyone else on the job, but it certainly adds a different perspective to a crew. They usually have some skill sets that are nice to have on a crew, compassion being one, it seems that the family of a victim, responds rather well to a caring lady, or it appears that way. She may have come from a background with skills that can be utilized on a crew such as nursing etc, or dealing with the public in some cases. In house, the discussions aren't as male oriented as they used to be, cars, toys etc. I find there is more time spent with family oriented discussions now. All in all the addition of the ladies have changed the fire service for the better. :)
fireman-911
09-08-2006, 08:43 AM
The fire doesn't care if you are a Male of Female firefighter & I think that's why there isn't a difference between the two on the fire ground. However, I think that some of the attitudes around the houses can get a little different because of the whole possibility of sexual harrassement (either male or female).... I think that's where the difference lays.
ruralbumpkin
09-08-2006, 08:56 AM
The fire doesn't care if you are a Male of Female firefighter & I think that's why there isn't a difference between the two on the fire ground. However, I think that some of the attitudes around the houses can get a little different because of the whole possibility of sexual harrassement (either male or female).... I think that's where the difference lays.
I agree with you on that. What i meant earlier was more in what was said by Wilderness..."the ladies are here to stay and this is a good thing..." I suppose now he has something better to look at. Just an inturprataion. He may just be saying it's time to drop the old way of doing things.
LtBlondie
09-08-2006, 08:57 AM
Nope been there 16 years and I said at the begininng, I will do the best I can and I do not want any special treatment period!! You must train hard physically and be able to DO YOUR JOB!! Bottom line..so still today I try to learn something everyday about this job and beleive me there is always something to learn, so male or female..just be capable and get in a few good "shots" is always good too!! :P
ruralbumpkin
09-08-2006, 09:00 AM
I hope my post is not seen as that, a "good shot." It is not intended to be. Just trying to figure out exactly what he meant.
Ladymedic
09-08-2006, 09:31 AM
I interpreted it in the way it was meant, that it is time to drop the "old ways".
flyfishing
09-08-2006, 01:48 PM
no, as a paid and now a vol never had an issue and some would put us guys to shame
Scuba
09-19-2006, 04:57 AM
Just wanna apply a little pressure there AB.
I hope you didn't hold your breath....
btw... my view (and im pretty sure Wilderness agrees) If you're a man, woman, martian, Native american transvestite cross dressing necropheiliac if you can do the job power to ya - then friggin well do it.
(btw. for the last one... PLEASE KEEP IT TO YOURSELF IF YOU ARE. :p)
I think our society is past the bitching and whining of everyone about how limited women are in their career choices...imho the pendulum swung too far to the other side now - and too much accomidation/limitation is being placed on us non-women... If you can do the job you should have a fair crack at it. If you can't - well I really don't think there should be accomidation based on what extra niblets you have or don't have.
no, as a paid and now a vol never had an issue and some would put us guys to shame
and I completely agree with Flyfishing...there are women in the service who would/could/can/do put their male counterparts to shame. We even have a few roaming around on this board. Anyway... enough.
Two lines say it all. You can or you can't. But you won't know if you don't try.
FitSsikS
09-19-2006, 06:08 AM
If you're a man, woman, martian, Native american....etc
To quote Denis (Tommy G):
"It's not about being a man or woman, ok? It's about doing the job. It's about me getting home safe and sound in the morning to see my kids. Ok so..you gotta a woman who can do the job better than my crew? Bring her on. You know, you gotta martian, a cyborg or a Chinaman that can do the job? Bring them on too."
All things being equal (abilities) some women on the job still have to put up with special treatment and it is often well intentioned.
Quite often female ffs (accepted ones that is) are treated as:
-daughters
-sisters
-potential girlfriends
-mothers...well...if they are "up there" a bit.;)
I was suprised to learn that another Capt didn't expect a female firefighter to clean the mens room because (if his daughter was on the job) he wouldn't want her to either.
Another example: Another Capt would would always make sure that his female ff didn't carry anything at a high rise call.
So even when the woman in question is top notch she (and her crew) may still have to put up with this sort of thing. Obviously this would tougher for a female probie to deal with than a seasoned vet.
wilderness
09-19-2006, 06:17 AM
When you say, "and this is a good thing", what are you really referring to?
Just would like to know.
have a said something wrong? what women aren't equal to guys in the fire service, so women have a few more curves, doesn't mean squat in my eyes..
either you can do the job or you can't.... Women have a diffrent view and this should be welcome amongst the guys.... Old school thinking is just that old school, get with the times, women have alot to offer....
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