Firefighters train in Marystown

[five_alarm]

MARYSTOWN, NL - The provincial Office of the Fire Commissioner offered a National Fire Protection Association 1001 Firefighter I Course June 10-16 in Marystown. Twenty-four volunteer firefighters from departments around the Burin Peninsula, and as far away as Labrador City and Port aux Basques, participated in the program, which combined both theory and practical training. Upon completion of the NFPA 1001 Firefighter I Course, participants are eligible to apply for certification as a Level I firefighter.Source: southerngazette.ca (http://www.southerngazette.ca/index.cfm?iid=1498&sid=10968)

[iamvff]

Interesting! 7 days @ 8hours/day=56hours. The NFPA level 1 course I taught was a 100 hour course....I wonder where they cut the corners? Of course, you don't have to teach everything, just ram them through so it looks good that you have volunteers with their level 1. There just volunteers, it's not like they need the real course!

My appologies if I said that out loud.....

iamvff:confused:

[Scuba]

Interesting! 7 days @ 8hours/day=56hours. The NFPA level 1 course I taught was a 100 hour course....I wonder where they cut the corners? Of course, you don't have to teach everything, just ram them through so it looks good that you have volunteers with their level 1. There just volunteers, it's not like they need the real course!

My appologies if I said that out loud.....

iamvff:confused:

WOOOOOAH! Not saying you aren't right...buuuuuuut there are other ways to get the information out than 100 horus on site training....if its the case that the course was ONLY for the 56 hours...well....i take it all back :P - but somehow I just dont' believe it.

Most of the courses around here have HUGE theory and basic practicle stuff that has to be done prior to the course and signed off by a TO from your own department. As well they run alot longer than 8 hour days.....

The Trainer facilitator course I was on recently ran from 8am till way past bed time for 3days straight. Lunch was brought in - 5 minutes to grab a soup and sandwitch before they started talking again while you ate....
28 hour course in a friday night, saturday and sunday with the post course test/assignment to be done by you at your own hall.

[smoke286]

Trust me, they cut LOTS of corners

[iamvff]

Hold up there buckshot. Not saying you aren't right...if that's the case that the course was ONLY for the 56 hours....but somehow I just dont' believe it.

Most of the courses around here have HUGE theory and basic practicle stuff that has to be done prior to the course and signed off by a TO from you're own department. As well they run alot longer than 8 hour days.....

The Trainer facilitator course I was on recently ran from 8am till way past bed time for 3 days straight. Meals were brought in - 5 minutes to grab a soup and sandwitch before they started talking again while you ate....
28 hour course in a friday night, saturday and sunday with the post course test/assignment to be done by you at your own hall.
Gotcha, but then the questions that need to be asked are, how much are they retaining when they have been sitting in class for 10-15 hours straight in one day? I know from my short experience in instructing, that after my students have worked at their fulltime job for 8 hours, it is tough to coach them through a 2.5 hour evening of boring theory. The second question would be, is the training officer at the hall an NFPA certified instructor? If not, he shouldn't be teaching the NFPA practical portion of the course! I smell a liability suit there.

iamvff

[Scuba]

Gotcha, but then the questions that need to be asked are, how much are they retaining when they have been sitting in class for 10-15 hours straight in one day? I know from my short experience in instructing, that after my students have worked at their fulltime job for 8 hours, it is tough to coach them through a 2.5 hour evening of boring theory. The second question would be, is the training officer at the hall an NFPA certified instructor? If not, he shouldn't be teaching the NFPA practical portion of the course! I smell a liability suit there.

iamvff

That's the thing...here most halls have a trainer facilitator or three that have been trained and signed off on by the white hats/OFM to teach components of the curriculum....the one positive of ontarios way of FF education is that they aren't as tight fisted with letting people grow into the role of trainer as 1001 provinces are....now the only downfall is that yes it opens up the flood gates to both good and bad people getting into the scene...